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PostSubject: National Communities and Progress   National Communities and Progress Icon_minitimeFri Mar 14, 2008 3:50 am

I have decided that the Union of Spinozist Communities must work better at becoming an International Union. Therefore certain steps have been taken. Each community will be given there own forum in which they have complete control and may discuss what they wish in privacy. I will enter every Spinozist present into their specific community.

Also, in order to get things rolling and keep it so each community will now have an equal say, I am starting a new system for work. The Rabbinic Council will not be a deciding factor any longer, instead it is a council of Spinozists interested in helping with our development, but when something has been created it will be brought to each community. Now, all Spinozists will have a say. I will post a vote within the private halls of the community and their final vote will go towards an international vote. Each community will have 1 vote in this. As for meetings between the communities, this section, at the moment called the "The Great Temple of Jerusalem" will be the general area for all Spinozists to meet.

Another issue is the independence of the communities. It is understandable that at times a community may truly disagree with a document that was posted but would lose in the vote. A community may then appeal the decision, and if the appeal is accepted by the other communities, they may choose to not use this proposal. It is also expected that communities create their own documents to, perhaps their was a great Spinozist in England that we consider a Nivi yet the French or Germans may not accept him, this would be allowed and it is encouraged within the communities to discuss such "personal documents".

We are currently in a time of development but we are seeing much growth, new ideas will be tried and some will be successful while others not. I am hoping this idea of mine, will help us, but I welcome all to look at this and let me know what you think.
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PostSubject: Re: National Communities and Progress   National Communities and Progress Icon_minitimeFri Mar 14, 2008 3:51 am

J'ai décidé que l'union des Communautés de Spinozist doit travailler mieux à devenir une union internationale. Par conséquent certaines mesures ont été prises. Chaque communauté sera donnée là pour posséder le forum dans lequel elles ont la commande complète et peut discuter ce qu'elles souhaitent dans l'intimité. J'entrerai dans chaque Spinozist dans leur communauté spécifique.

En outre, afin d'obtenir des choses roulant et les garder tellement chaque communauté aura maintenant une parole égale, je commence un nouveau système pour le travail. Le Conseil rabbinique ne sera pas un facteur décisif plus longtemps, au lieu de cela c'est un conseil de Spinozists intéressé à aider avec notre développement, mais quand quelque chose a été créée il sera apporté à chaque communauté. Maintenant, tout le Spinozists aura une parole. Je signalerai une voix dans les halls privés de la communauté et leur voix finale ira vers une voix internationale. Chaque communauté aura 1 voix en cela. Quant aux réunions entre les communautés, cette section, au moment où appelé "le grand temple de Jérusalem" sera le secteur général pour que tout le Spinozists se réunisse.

Une autre issue est l'indépendance des communautés. Il est compréhensible que parfois une communauté puisse vraiment être en désaccord avec un document qui a été signalé mais perdrait dans la voix. Une communauté peut alors en appeler à la décision, et si l'appel est accepté par les autres communautés, ils peuvent choisir de ne pas employer cette proposition. On s'attend à ce également que les communautés créent leurs propres documents à, peut-être leur était on laisserait un grand Spinozist en Angleterre que nous considérons un Nivi pourtant le Français ou les Allemands peut ne pas l'accepter, ceci et il est encouragé au sein des communautés à discuter de tels "documents personnels".

Nous sommes actuellement dans un moment du développement mais nous voyons beaucoup de croissance, de nouvelles idées seront essayées et certains seront réussis tandis que d'autres pas. J'espère cette idée du mien, nous aiderai, mais je fais bon accueil à tous pour regarder ceci et me fais savoir ce que vous pensez.
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PostSubject: Re: National Communities and Progress   National Communities and Progress Icon_minitimeFri Mar 14, 2008 3:53 am

Eu decidi-me que a união de comunidades de Spinozist deve trabalhar mais melhor em se transformar uma união internacional. Conseqüentemente determinadas etapas foram feitas exame. Cada comunidade será dada lá para possuir o forum em que têm o controle completo e pode discutir o que deseja na privacidade. Eu entrarei em cada Spinozist atual em sua comunidade específica.

Também, a fim começar as coisas que rolam e mantê-las assim cada comunidade terá agora uma palavra igual, mim está começando um sistema novo para o trabalho. O conselho rabbinic não será um fator decidindo-se mais por muito tempo, instead é um conselho de Spinozists interessado na ajuda com nosso desenvolvimento, mas quando algo foi criado será trazido a cada comunidade. Agora, todo o Spinozists terá uma palavra. Eu afixarei um voto dentro dos salões confidenciais da comunidade e seu voto final irá para um voto internacional. Cada comunidade terá 1 voto nesta. Quanto para às reuniões entre as comunidades, esta seção, no momento em que chamado "o temple grande de Jerusalem" será a área geral para que todo o Spinozists encontre-se com.

Uma outra edição são a independência das comunidades. É compreensível que às vezes uma comunidade pode verdadeiramente discordar com um original que seja afixado mas perca no voto. Uma comunidade pode então apelar a decisão, e se a apelação for aceitada pelas outras comunidades, podem escolher não usar esta proposta. Espera-se também que as comunidades críam seus próprios originais a, talvez seu era um Spinozist grande em Inglaterra que nós consideramos um Nivi contudo o francês ou os alemães não podem o aceitar, isto seria reservado e é incentivado dentro das comunidades discutir tais "originais pessoais".

Nós estamos atualmente em um momento do desenvolvimento mas nós estamos vendo muito crescimento, as idéias novas serão tentadas e algumas serão bem sucedidas quando outras não. Eu estou esperando esta idéia de meus, ajudar-nos-ei, mas eu dou boas-vindas a tudo para olhar este e deixo-me saber o que você pensa.
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PostSubject: Re: National Communities and Progress   National Communities and Progress Icon_minitimeFri Mar 14, 2008 3:54 am

Ich habe entschieden, daß der Anschluß der Spinozist Gemeinschaften am Werden besser arbeiten muß ein internationaler Anschluß. Folglich sind bestimmte Schritte unternommen worden. Jede Gemeinschaft wird dort, gegeben Forum zu besitzen, in dem sie komplette Steuerung haben und kann besprechen, was sie im Privatleben wünschen. Ich betrete jedes Spinozist, das in ihre spezifische Gemeinschaft vorhanden ist.

Auch, zwecks die rollenden Sachen zu erhalten und sie zu halten hat so jede Gemeinschaft jetzt ein gleiches Sagen, ich beginnen ein neues System für Arbeit. Der rabbinische Rat ist nicht ein entscheidener Faktor irgendwie länger, stattdessen ist es ein Rat von Spinozists interessiert an dem Helfen bei unserer Entwicklung, aber, wenn etwas verursacht worden ist, jeder Gemeinschaft wird es geholt. Jetzt hat alles Spinozists ein Sagen. Ich gebe eine Stimme innerhalb der privaten Hallen der Gemeinschaft bekannt und ihre abschließende Stimme geht in Richtung zu einer internationalen Stimme. Jede Gemeinschaft hat 1 Stimme diesbezüglich. Was Sitzungen anbetrifft zwischen den Gemeinschaften, ist dieser Abschnitt, in dem Augenblick als benannt der "große Bügel von Jerusalem", der allgemeine Bereich, damit alles Spinozists trifft.

Eine andere Ausgabe ist die Unabhängigkeit der Gemeinschaften. Es ist verständlich, daß manchmal eine Gemeinschaft mit einem Dokument wirklich anderer MeinungSEIN kann, das bekanntgegeben war, aber in der Stimme verlieren würde. Eine Gemeinschaft kann der Entscheidung dann gefallen, und wenn der Anklang von den anderen Gemeinschaften angenommen wird, können sie beschließen, diesen Antrag nicht zu verwenden. Es wird auch erwartet, daß Gemeinschaften ihre eigenen Dokumente zu erstellen, möglicherweise ihr war ein großes Spinozist in England, daß wir ein Nivi betrachten, noch die Franzosen oder die Deutschen möglicherweise nicht ihn annehmen können, dieses würde gewährt und es wird innerhalb der Gemeinschaften angeregt, solche "persönliche Dokumente" zu besprechen.

Sind wir z.Z. in einer Zeit der Entwicklung, aber wir sehen viel Wachstum, werden neue Ideen versucht und einige sind während andere nicht erfolgreich. Ich hoffe diese Idee von meinen, helfe uns, aber ich begrüße alle, um dieses zu betrachten und informiere mich, was Sie denken.
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PostSubject: Re: National Communities and Progress   National Communities and Progress Icon_minitimeWed May 14, 2008 5:18 am

Shalom David,

Ah very good congratulations, this difference of Focus allows that some
communities may be more Hassidim inclined whilst others may have
a more earthly (Nature) inclination, some very liberal some more
Orthodox.... it should be interesting and make for good discussion
amongst our various communities ..... Tov !

goes back to be lost in contemplating Zohar
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PostSubject: Re: National Communities and Progress   National Communities and Progress Icon_minitimeThu May 15, 2008 4:20 am

Our good leader, David Bar Kochba, is experiencing technical difficulties, and won't be very active for the next week or so. He sends his regards, and hopes that we continue the work in his absence Smile
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